tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post4709390232542567368..comments2024-02-05T00:22:41.291-08:00Comments on Orthodox Messianic Judaism: Pyles Makes a Good PointUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post-48800393785607038652012-10-31T13:17:58.655-07:002012-10-31T13:17:58.655-07:00Zion,
You're right. I'll try to go to a ...Zion,<br /><br />You're right. I'll try to go to a synagogue this Shabbat. In fact, I'll do some research now to see which one is nearby. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742087402667360623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post-30081072343709873562012-10-31T13:13:40.838-07:002012-10-31T13:13:40.838-07:00I agree. I think that means that visiting a Church...<em>I agree. I think that means that visiting a Church should be a temporary solution. Yikes! I might need a little rescuing myself if I don't hurry up and find a OL home base.</em><br /><br />Go also to synagogue, that way, you can get the best and worst of both worlds. :DZionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post-67883489123801116462012-10-31T13:09:47.911-07:002012-10-31T13:09:47.911-07:00Judah,
I agree. I think that means that visiting...Judah,<br /><br />I agree. I think that means that visiting a Church should be a temporary solution. Yikes! I might need a little rescuing myself if I don't hurry up and find a OL home base.<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03742087402667360623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post-13582222853313825352012-10-31T13:01:36.946-07:002012-10-31T13:01:36.946-07:00Pyles uses hyperbolic rhetoric to mock a real prob...Pyles uses hyperbolic rhetoric to mock a real problem: the Church has anti-Judaic doctrines. He would not use that same language when speaking of Jews in the Church, revealing his real bias: the belief that Jews shouldn't be in the Church, but gentiles should. Bilateral Ecclesiology, all the way.<br /><br />But let's address the problem, and not the ideologues:<br /><br />Given the Church has anti-Judaic and anti-Torah doctrines, what do we do?<br /><br />Leave the church and gather with people who do not hold such doctrines.<br /><br />Or,<br /><br />Stay in the church and try to reform it.<br /><br />The folks who do either are bold and standing for their, and Scripture's, principles. I suggest we maintain a good relationship with the Church while we congregate together with like minded believers. Staying in a Church leads to assimilation, Jew or gentile.Judah Gabriel Himangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277699587853707632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5143697192802548581.post-35900419729416860512012-10-31T12:56:52.583-07:002012-10-31T12:56:52.583-07:00James is wrong, both historically and his opinion....James is wrong, both historically and his opinion. We know what it was like, Acts, describes Synagogues who came to accept the message of Messiah, both Jews and Gentiles, thus Judaism was maintained, the Synagogue continued, I won't say we know all the clear details, but we do know they did not form something outside of Judaism, ie Christianity for Gentiles. What he is doing, is taking the few scenarios where both Jews and Gentiles were kicked out and had to form their own congregation, then ignoring that Jews were also part of these new congregations, and claiming they were only gentile. Now I don't doubt, that there was possibly some congregations that were majority Gentile, especially over time, but we see it orchestrated after that of the Synagogue. Many stayed in the Synagogue, and those who were not safe in a Synagogue formed their own groups, but remember we are talking Jews and Gentiles, not just gentiles, thus his argument concerning gentiles is moot, because the same would have to apply to the believing Jews who came out with them due to persecution.<br /><br />In other words, Bilateral Ecclisiology does not exist in the scriptures, that does not mean it does not exist in some peoples imaginations. :DZionnoreply@blogger.com