Thursday, February 7, 2013

MUST-READ ARTICLE by Vanhoff at Torah Resource Institute

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  1. After reading tent of David I decided to purchase "Son of David" because Boaz referenced it. In it we see Dauermann painting a pretty bleak picture of the Messianic Movement, diagnosing its problems, and suggesting his "vision" to "fix" it.

    In it we learn, "We in the Messianic Movement have declared One Law Movements, which postulate that Jews and Gentiles equally must keep the Law of Moses, to be seriously defective." p37

    Just prior to this he declares, "Cryptosupersessionism exists wherever there is an unconscious and entrenched cluster of presuppositions assuming the expiration or setting aside of identity markers that formerly applied to the Jewish people, effectively nullifying Israel's covenant uniqueness in whole or in part." p36

    [this reminds me of a comedy skit by Brian Regan he says "I hate when a sentence drags on, 'cause my brain can't handle a long sentence." Funny skit if you’ve never seen it – highly recommended…]

    Further,"Advocating one Law of Christ/Messiah for Jew and Gentile alike consigns Jews to assimilation and, within two or three generations at most, communal extinction in almost every case." p 39.

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    1. So Boaz thinks that One Law is responsible for Jewish assimilation. This guy is unbelievable! It's like the Palestinians saying that Israel is genocidal or imperialist, etc. Boaz carries a reality distortion field around with him wherever he goes.

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  2. trial balloon...
    How does this sound?

    Cryptoantigentileism exists wherever there is an unconscious and entrenched cluster of presuppositions assuming the separation or setting aside of unity that forms the body of the Messiah, effectively re-erecting the dividing wall between Jew and Gentile effectively nullifying the Messiah’s covenant unity in whole or in part.

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    1. Maybe I should write a book called "Tent of Messiah: a vision big enough for everyone."

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    2. I hope that you write many books so that we can all be blessed!

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    3. Thanks for the link to the article, it was very good.

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    4. Your welcome. And thanks to Dan for giving it to me! : )

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  3. Thanks for linking the article, and thanks to Rob for doing a partial review of the book by Detwiler. Until it is available for free, I will not read it. That being said, I think he was far to kind to Detwiler (“Boaz Michael” is a pseudonym).

    The accusation of being “supercessionist” or “cryptosupersessionist” is not a light matter. To use such descriptors for Presbyterians, Lutherans, Roman Catholics, etc., is not offensive, because they accurately describe their views. They teach that the “church” supersedes (replaces) Israel. They are unapologetic for that view.

    On the other hand, in describing Zionists, those words are not only offensive, they are intentionally derogatory. To accuse a religious Zionist of holding to a view that they think and act like they have replaced Israel is tantamount to a curse.

    Detwiler purposely uses vile and despicable language in describing the views and actions of Messianics that do not follow his shtick. This is not a matter of a difference of opinion. Detwiler is cursing those that he calls “One Law.”

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    1. Rick! Good to hear from you! Yes, I feel same way about book. I don't want to give money to that organization.

      On a side note: I wish these guys would come out from their holes in the ground and agree to a public debate! Let everyone see how their Exclusionist ideology holds up against Scripture! : )

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    2. Peter, I am a frequent lurker < grin >

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    3. As for them "coming out form their holes in the ground" rest assured, they do, but not necessarily publicly. Remember, it is a business...

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  4. Rick,

    Here is a definition of Supersessionism:

    Boaz and Derek undergoing a fake conversion so they can tell us Jews how to be Jews...

    We, Jews, call this Chutzpah....

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  5. Dan,

    Yes, it takes real chutzpah to use fake credentials to judge everyone else's. What is most enlightening is to compare this modern discussion to Galatians, where Nanos' "influencers" are folks like FFOZ and Leman. Transliterate the "circumcision" references to "ritual conversion" and the picture is complete.

    The real chutzpah becomes evident when you consider that the "influencers" of Galatians would likely have been recognized as authentic "converts" to the normative Judaisms of the day - whereas folks like Detwiler and Leman, would simply be seen as usurpers themselves. Even these men's man-made "conversions" would be null before modern authorities that determine "Jewishness" (wow, how far have some strayed from "and father begot son, and son begot grandson...").

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